From The Pinstriped Blog at YES Network:The Error of the Torre Era
Torre is forever a success, but the magic has run out
Steven Goldman
CLUELESS JOE?I am as big a Joe Torre supporter as likely exists outside of his immediate family, and yet I find I am losing faith.
To backtrack for a moment, yesterday I talked about the poor management of the Yankees during the 1980s. That was my formative period as a Yankees follower and it influences my perceptions of the team to this day. Sometimes when writing about certain leaders, biographers will point out how observing some landmark moment had an impact on that leader when it came time for him to make his own big decisions. Franklin Roosevelt never forgot how Woodrow Wilson squandered his reputation, political capital, and health on the League of Nations fight, so when it came to getting into World War II he was very hesitant to buck isolationist public opinion. In trying to figure out how to counter Josef Stalin's moves on Eastern Europe at the end of the war, Harry Truman took a hard line because he saw parallels to the appeasement of Hitler at Munich. Lyndon Johnson saw how the Republicans attacked Democrats over the "loss" of China, so he couldn't bring himself to get out of Vietnam.
When I look at Joe Torre, I don't only see Torre. I see the diminishing returns in Billy Martin III, IV, and V. I see Bob Lemon, Gene Michael, and Clyde King managing the Yankees in the same season; Bucky Dent's utter helplessness; Dallas Green's pointless bravado; Buck Showalter answering, "It's an internal matter. We'll deal with that internally," to any question, from, "Why didn't you pinch-hit for Mike Gallego in that spot?" to "How do you feel about one of your players being arrested for multiple homicide?" I see Lou Piniella getting fired because he wouldn't return the owner's phone calls. In short, I see an age of darkness that Torre vanquished.
Joe Torre has an understanding of the politics of being the manager of the Yankees that all of his predecessors going back to Ralph Houk lacked. First, the manager doesn't own the team. Mr. Steinbrenner does. Mr. Steinbrenner's moods, whims, fetishes, fancies, are well known at this point. More has been written about George Steinbrenner than any other owner in the history of baseball. The only manager in Yankees history who can claim not to have been forewarned was Houk, who came with the franchise. Everyone else knew what they were getting into. Torre understood that if you are not prepared to accept the owner as he is then you shouldn't take the job.
He also understood that it is better to cooperate with the media than struggle against it. Those Subway commercials with Willie Randolph actually come close to capturing reality: Torre knows you have to give the media the good sandwiches. Working for the Yankees in any job is difficult. It really can be turbulent inside that Stadium. Having the media working against you can only make things harder.
Finally, he seemed to do an excellent job of forging the often overpaid, sometimes eccentric, collection of Derek Jeters and Ruben Sierras into a winning whole. I say "seemed" because we don't get to see that part of his job. We only get to hear about it from him and some of the people involved. We have to take their word for it.
Torre is a rotten tactician, though watching opposing managers I suspect he pulls fewer rocks than the average skipper. Despite this, when I consider the list of managers above and contemplate the alternatives — Joe Girardi, who lost his job in Florida because he clashed with the front office and yelled at the owner? Lou Piniella, who maneuvered himself into the Tampa Bay job and then spent three years bitching about the club? — I can see the Yankees taking a step back into a less rational time.
Still, Torre's day may be at an end. All managers, even the great ones, reach a point where they have been in one place too long, gotten too comfortable, too satisfied with their own judgments, too predictable with the players to keep them motivated.
Age seems to have something to do with it. Mr. Torre turned 66 this year. In the entire history of baseball, few have managed at 65 years old or older. The most notable, and this is close to the entire list, were Connie Mack, Casey Stengel, Jack McKeon, Felipe Alou, Frank Robinson, Tommy Lasorda, Leo Durocher, Wilbert Robinson, Paul Richardson, Walt Alston, Ralph Houk and Herman Franks. Total pennants and World Series wins among them: 40 and 23. Total pennants and World Series wins ages 65 and up: eight and five. These consist of three pennants and two championships for Mr. Mack, four pennants and two championships for Mr. Stengel, and one pennant and one win for Mr. McKeon. History suggests that managers have to stay young, both so they can relate to the younger generation and so strategy doesn't pass them by.
Torre might have reached that point. His best instincts failed him this year. I can't put it any better than my New York Sun colleague Tim Marchman did, so I'm not going to try:
He's not a failure... Not being a failure doesn't make him a success, though, and it's his handling of (Alex) Rodriguez that really marks the difference between why he should stay and why he should go. Torre has never been much of a strategist or tactician — his main strength has always been his ability to manage the egos of players and put them in position to succeed. He not only hasn't done that with Rodriguez, he's brutally humiliated him, first by participating in the shameful and repulsive team hit job on the embattled third baseman that ran in Sports Illustrated last month, and then by batting him eighth in a playoff elimination game. No matter how badly Rodriguez was hitting, he wasn't hitting any worse than anyone else on the team. Singling him out that way made him the story, rather than the collective failure. It was a crass move and it didn't work.My Baseball Prospectus amigo Joe Sheehan, sticking to the tactical end, hit the nail on the head as well:
In an elimination game, against a right-handed starter, Joe Torre started Melky Cabrera over Jason Giambi. I think Joe Torre is one of the men most responsible for turning a franchise that had become something of a joke into a dynasty, and when he one day is inducted into the Hall of Fame for it, I will stand and cheer. But he had a terrible season, and in assembling his lineups the last two days, he choked. Benching Gary Sheffield and playing Giambi against Rogers, then reversing that against Bonderman, isn't managing, it's flailing. It means as much in the evaluation of his career as Alex Rodriguez's poor series, or Randy Johnson's poor start, which is to say, very little. It's there, however, and it's part of the reason the Yankees lost.I know that many of you dislike Alex Rodriguez and think I defend him too much, but the fact is that whatever you think of him, the SI article never should have happened. Torre and select "teammates" took a bad road trip by a player who had been in the league for 12 years, who had won the MVP award the year before, and overreacted to it. Rodriguez actually hit well in August, just as he had hit well in July, just as he would hit well in September. The story came out just in time to destroy his confidence all over again. Then Torre and his musical chairs lineups came in and compounded the situation.
In the final analysis, it's the manager's job to get the most out of his players. Not only did Torre fail to do that with Rodriguez (not that Rodriguez needed all that much help), but he actively undermined him. Rodriguez is one of the best players in baseball, and certainly among the most talented. The Yankees organization has devoted major resources to obtaining and paying him. It is not for any manager, even a future Hall of Famer like Torre, to lightly throw that player away. Now, though, possibly as a parting gesture, Torre has put the Yankees in a difficult position. He's alienated Rodriguez from the team, or at minimum from the manager. Both cannot return.
Hate Rodriguez as much as you like. Dealing him almost certainly pushes the Yankees further away from their next pennant. The whole situation reeks of hypocrisy. We're still waiting for the 2005 article on Derek Jeter, the one where various Yankees call him a fraud because he's batting .261, all singles, with runners in scoring position, and the same thing close and late. Further let he who is without sin cast the first World Series ring, because Rodriguez has been with the team only three years, but the Yankees haven't won a championship in six.
So, yes, maybe it's time. Because of A-Rod, because of the weird lineups, because two lefties sat in the bullpen in Game 2 when Curtis Granderson tripled in the seventh. Because the magic went away six years ago.
If Torre does go, I expect that either Piniella or Girardi will be hired, and if not them then someone very much like them, someone more authoritarian than Joe. That's the way baseball teams always operate. If the Yankees feel they have to pick the two, they should go with Girardi, because he'll turn 42 next week, whereas Piniella just turned 63. The Yankees need a skipper who is going to be in it for the long haul, who is not going to push the team to add even more veteran dead weight so it can win one more meaningless division title before he retires.
The Yankees say that they're a championship club and the season is a failure if they don't win the championship. That expectation is distorting the way they play and the way the team is maintained. The 2006 Yankees are no more the heirs to the 1996 and 1998-2000 champions than the 1984 Yankees were defending the 1978 championship. The Yankees won't go into 2007 as favorites to win the World Series. They won't have the pitching, and their veterans will be another year older. Those lowered expectations might be the best thing that has happened to the franchise in years. With no illusions either way, the team can set about building a champion instead of assuming they already have one.
From The Bergen Record:Torre lost touch with his players
By Bob KlapischIt was late August when Johnny Damon took a long, hard look around the clubhouse and was appalled at what he saw.
"Let's go [bleep-bleepers], wake up," Damon shouted. The center fielder had had enough of the Yankees' listlessness; it was so disturbingly different from the crazy energy he once shared with the Red Sox at Fenway. But instead of rallying the Yankees, Damon was met with silence.
That, and a cold stare across the room from Randy Johnson. Damon was so unnerved by the apathy, he later asked a team official, "Did I do something wrong?"
Sadly, that incident serves as a microcosm of the 2006 Yankees, and is why George Steinbrenner will soon fire Joe Torre. Despite the billion dollars he's spent since the last world championship in 2000, The Boss has only a series of October failures to show for it. The Yankees are rich, but soft. They can hit, but not when it counts. They talk about pinstripe tradition, but the roster is plagued by petty rivalries and jealousies that act as a cancer in the postseason.
Derek Jeter can't stand Alex Rodriguez and refuses to come to his defense. Mike Mussina doesn't like A-Rod, either, although, come to think of it, the Stanford grad hasn't much use for any of his teammates. No one talks to Johnson. Everyone thinks Carl Pavano is a joke. The Yankees' best pitcher, Chien-Ming Wang, is isolated by his limited knowledge of English.
On and on, the list of dysfunctions keeps going. Instead of a dynasty, the Yankees have become a newer version of the Braves -- consistently outplayed by younger, hungrier teams such as the Diamondbacks (2001), the Angels (2002 and 2005), the Marlins (2003) and now the Tigers.
Steinbrenner has only two choices now: He can fire Torre or trade A-Rod. They're the ones who must answer to the Yankees' consistent underachievement.
By all accounts, The Boss already has decided it's Torre who'll go, ready to replace him with Lou Piniella. Brian Cashman will lobby to keep Torre, whom he considers a personal friend, but in this case, the general manager will be outvoted and the end of the Torre regime will come "in the next 24 to 48 hours" according to one person familiar with Steinbrenner's thinking.
Torre spent most of 11 seasons turning the Yankees into a class, mature organization that was once the envy of the industry. But little by little, his magic has dissolved. The Yankees have become addicted to the All-Star-at-every-position philosophy, and the bloating that's followed is found in more than just the payroll. The Yankees' egos are such that they no longer hustle their way to victories. Instead, they've been relying on nuclear superiority.
Most of the time, it worked. That lineup was indeed the best the American League has seen in decades, maybe ever. But there's still no substitute for hard work and old school enthusiasm. When the Yankees ran into a young team that refused to be intimidated, such as the Tigers, "They just curled up and died" said one major league executive. The Yankees somehow became convinced they could win by simply being the Yankees. They had no Plan B, and that's because Torre was so withdrawn from his troops.
Say this much for Joe Cool. He refused to fake his way through temper tantrums. He's not that kind of manager or person. But the Yankees need new fire now, which is why Piniella is warming up in the bullpen.
There are risks here, of course. Sweet Lou isn't nearly as media savvy as Torre and is certain to let his famous temper betray him sooner or later. The old newspaper wars with The Boss already are peeking over the horizon. But in the short term, he is exactly what the Yankees need.
Piniella also may be Rodriguez's last hope in New York. Finally, there'll be someone to act as A-Rod's advocate since it was never going to be Jeter, and it was obvious that Torre had no use for the third baseman, either. The decision to bat A-Rod in the Nos. 6 and 8 spots in the ALDS was an open declaration by Torre that he'd given up coddling A-Rod. It was Torre's way of telling Steinbrenner: It's him or me.
And that was the ultimatum that likely will cost Torre his job.
Maybe the Yankees will morph into a different team now. Maybe Piniella can get in peoples' faces the way he used to in the '80s. Maybe he can get A-Rod to stop feeling sorry for himself. Maybe Piniella can get Yankee fans off Rodriguez's back, too.
But if Sweet Lou replaces Torre, the first order of business will be to instill the old code of Yankee toughness that was the signature of the Billy Martin era. One scout who's watched the Yankees this year said, "It used to be that teams were afraid of the Yankees, but not anymore."
The Yankees never looked as tight as they did in Game 4 against the Tigers, which is exactly how they played Game 7 of the 2004 League Championship Series against the Red Sox, which was a clone of Game 4 against the Angels in last year's ALDS. Coincidence? Not anymore. It's become a pattern of failure.
Each time, Torre took the high road, refusing to blame anyone in the clubhouse. He's a good man who deserved greater effort from his millionaires. But it's also true that a team assumes the personality of its manager; the Yankees took Torre's calm and used it as an excuse to become docile.
The result? Everyone on the block knows the Yankees will crumble if you stand up to them.
And you know what they say about a bully: He's just a coward turned inside out.